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You've reached Neutrois Outpost, the official Neutrois Transgender home on the web! Neutrois, Pangendered, Othergendered, FTMs, MTFs, Eunuchs, GenderPunks, and friends are all welcome here. C'mon... get happy, and don't forget to check out our resources!

FAQ


Home Up Neutrois?

 

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Because we rarely come with instruction manuals.


What are Neutrois? Try clicking here.

Isn't this just another name for androgyne? No. While Neutrois seek an androgynous appearance, androgynes aren't Neutrois because being Neutrois involves gender dysphoria. Androgynes don't necessarily have any difficulties with their gender identities.

What are those symbols at the left side of your pages? The symbols are designed to work within the gender symbol set, and to represent gender-null. The triangle, that the larger circle nests in, represents pride in the knowledge of who we are.

Which pronouns do Neutrois prefer? That's a better question to ask the particular person you're speaking with. While some prefer genderless pronouns, others are fine with gendered pronouns. Some even turn pronoun usage into a game and let the situation/other person apply the pronoun.

Where does 'Neutrois' come from? Who coined it? Neutrois means non-gendered class. It was originally coined by H.A. Burnham, in 1995. Ze formed it to give a name to hirself, and other people with feelings of gender absence and resulting misalignment.

How do other TGs view Neutrois? Some are fine with it and consider it another facet of the gender spectrum. Others may be threatened by it. This could be due to a number of things. One is that they completely invested themselves in stereotypical definitions of gender identity and behaviors. These people are extremely uncomfortable with anyone who refuses to live the same way they do. Another reason is that they accepted implied behavior requirements from therapists, lived according to stereotypes, and either resent anyone who doesn't have to conform to all the prerequisites that they did, or believe we're out to screw things up for others seeking sexual reassignment surgery.

Do any activist organizations welcome Neutrois? Though not always true, organizations which welcome transgendered members (or are comprised of them), may welcome Neutrois to the ranks. Check out attitudes and ask around. See the links page for a few good organizations to check out.

If this is a TG site, why does the links page include Eunuch stuff? There are a few reasons for this. One reason is that some MTNs desire penile and testicular nullification. Eunuchs would have information on not only the procedure, but which practitioners perform them (since not many advertise). Some Eunuchs also have writings on why they chose nullification, what their procedures involved, and what their lives are like afterward.

Are there any books written about Neutrois? No, but there are books which explore gender identities outside the binary gender system. See the book list for some recommended titles.

Where can I find more information on the Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association and on the Standards of Care? Visit the links page and scroll down to find links to the HBIGDA and SOC.

What modifications to the Standards of Care would benefit Neutrois? Mostly we'd like to see things opened up. Instead of uniformly forcing every transgendered person to fit stereotypical guidelines for what is and is not transgendered, give the gender identity, definitions, and decision back to the patient. If, for example, someone has desired having hir breasts removed for over a year, and consistently expressed it, that should be enough justification for the procedure to be performed. It should also be stressed that feminizing/masculinizing hormone therapy should never be required of patients who only desire breast removal, or penectomy, as opposed to sexual reassignment surgery. Even with total oophorectomy, or orchidectomy, feminizing/masculinizing therapy must be optional, with only the minimum levels of hormone replacement required for maintaining health and bone density.

Where can I find information on gender therapists and support groups? You can try looking through your phone book for support groups & therapists who work with gender. You might also find suggestions at a local gay and lesbian community center, or a college campus with a gay and lesbian student group. There are a number of resources on the web, and even a few on our links page.

If I find something that might help other Neutrois, can I submit it to Neutrois Outpost? Certainly. Feel free to visit the feedback page and send it our way. If it's helpful, we'll add it to Neutrois Outpost.

Excerpt from fan mail: "...r u a [obscenity] jok??????? u hav no rit to say this [obscenity]!!!! al ur duin is puting dout in heds uf tranys ho r areddy syko with ther trubals! y r u makkin [obscenity] wers!!!" This wasn't designed as a question, but it was entertaining enough to answer. First of all, we have the right to say anything we want. Second, we don't need a Ph.D. to explain our gender feelings, nor do we need one to understand someone who feels the same way. If this site "adds" to someone's problems, that person should slow down and figure out what ze is really feeling. It's very likely ze found hir answer too fast and it doesn't fit. Wouldn't you rather work through your doubts BEFORE you go through SRS? It's awfully hard to go back after surgery and hormones.



Addendum

As of January 2006, the www.neutrois.com site is not being fully indexed by the Internet Archive, anymore.
Consequently, the administrator of Androgyne Online has created this site to house these important pages.

Yahoogroups! internet mailing lists

  • Neutrois · Discussion group for Neutrois, and other gender community members. [the official neutrois mailing list]
  • neutroisoutpost · Neutrois Outpost [an unofficial mailing list, to entreat the www.neutrois.com creators to resurface]
  • androgynes · living beyond gender [a mailing list which, technically, is not relevant to this website]

    The first mailing list above, Neutrois, initiated March 20th, 2000, has 50 members, and is the original mailing list made presumably by and for people connected to the www.neutrois.com website between 2000 and 2002. The website itself was apparently created May 5, 2000, and last updated on August 28, 2001. There does not seem to any longer be a listowner for this list, so no new members can join, but there are posts made to the list occasionally, nonetheless. If anyone on that list or involved with the original website is reading this and would like to contact me, please click here. Ideally, I would like the original creators of the www.neutrois.com site to take over and expand this site, since they understand who and what neutrois are better than anyone.

    The second mailing list above, neutroisoutpost, initiated January 13, 2004, has 37 members as of this writing (1/24/06), and was originally intended to entice people from the list above to join the new list or else to contact the listowner of the original list to enable new subscribers to join that list. The second mailing list is now for people who want to discuss what they know or understand about neutrois.

    The third mailing list above, androgynes, initiated December 18, 2000, has 333 members as of this writing (1/24/06), and is ordinarily not concerned with neutrois issues, but sometimes is. This because of three reasons. First, because the two neutrois Yahoogroups mailing lists above get little to no postings at the time of this writing. Second, because -- given that there is currently no one online involved in the original neutrois website willing to come forward and set matters straight on issues of neutrois -- androgynes who identify as neutrois sometimes bring up the subject of neutrois. Third, because some androgynes do not think of themselves as having the gender identity of both a man and a woman but as having the gender identity of neither a man nor a woman -- which, to some people's thinking, is similar to if not the same as neutrois. In an ideal world, people from the original www.neutrois.com website would take over this website (neutrois.0catch.com) to clarify things of this nature once and for all.

    If anyone reading this has a copy of any of the original Home and Contents navigational menu buttons or the image headers that originally appeared at the top of these pages, please contribute them to this site.
    -- site administrator Stephe Feldman


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    This addendum first created 1/24/06. Copyright © Stephe Feldman, 2006. Last update: 8/24/07.